Ok sorry bout the zip links didn't know it was bad just thought someone brilliant would see it and figure it out, so other then your forsight on staring at the zips and not the question, I still cannot get a video just sound, all though I have all the codecs that each player states in the movie. Gonna ask is there something embedded in the movie that is stopping me from seeing the video, like when you get wmv movies and they ask for a drm or is all the players reading the movie wrong in associated what codecs it has, is there a way to edit it to get the video to display in a player ( like a good program) to take out what ever is stopping my players fro display the video part and just the audio?